'This Week' Transcript 9-17-23: Rep. Nancy Mace
Interview
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"If we have a shutdown, nothing else gets done this year.
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Good morning.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, using the word the civil -- the phrase "civil war" over and over again in an interview, if that were a Republican, there would be outrage on the left.
So, I find it a little bit hypocritical that that is the divisive language that he used in his interview, and talking about people over politics. If Democrats and, quite frankly, Republicans wanted to put people over politics, they would not have joined hands earlier this year to add $18.8 trillion to the debt, which is saddling Middle America --
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The debt ceiling deal.
And I called this, you know, months ago. I said this is what they're going to do. They're going to have supplemental. They're going to have a CR no matter what, and that doesn't give a budget for the country, and that doesn't give consistency for the economy, for businesses that are trying to grow.
And both sides, quite frankly, have put us in this position and he ought to take ownership of it and so, too, should Republicans.
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And we haven't.
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I haven't seen -- I haven't seen the bills.
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And quite frankly, a lot of promises were made. It's not just to the Freedom Caucus but to other members of the House. And those promises ought to be fulfilled. If you handshake --
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Yes. Promises that the Republican Conference has made, but -- and leadership (ph) has made to not just the Freedom Caucus.
But, you know, if we say we're going to do something, let's do it. We want the American people to trust us, to trust Congress to do the right thing, and to be responsible with their tax dollars. And no one knows what's going to happen, no one knows what spending is going to look like, and no one knows what additional spending, supplementals, et cetera, that are going to be added on top of that. So it probably ends up being more than $18.8 trillion over the next decade. You know, I called this three months ago.
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It hasn't happened yet and I'm not going to, you know, you know, comment on conjecture here. Either he's going to file it or he's not. If he's going to do it, put his money where his mouth is. I do hear that some votes might be up for grabs because people were made promises that have not been kept.
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We'll -- we'll see how it turns out. But I will tell you, I'm one of those members who were made certain promises. I've worked on women's issues, I've worked on issues, you know, related to gun violence I feel are very important and, you know, it's fallen on deaf ears. And if I -- if I give a handshake on someone, I expect them to follow through with it.
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I -- I might -- you know what, everything's on the table at this point for me because I want to do the right thing for the American people, I want to do the right thing for women, I'm trying to show, here's a path forward for women post Roe for birth control, for women who are rape survivors, et cetera. My district is no stranger to gun violence, to mass shootings. You know, there are things that we can do to keep our communities safe and follow the Constitution at the same time. We should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. We ought to be able to work hard for the American people and show them that. And here we are facing a government shutdown and -- and really what have we accomplished this year?
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I think he does. I do think he will continue to be speaker, but I do think it's going to be a long, a long rest of the year.
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I am expecting a shutdown. But again, you know, what most America don't know, the vast -- the majority of the government will be operating, will be working. And I've talked to some federal employees that don't really mind it because they're going to get a vacation, they're going to get time off, but then they're going to get back pay. And so they're not really grumbling about a government shutdown. It's more than meets the eye.
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I don't believe so. The facts are everywhere. There are text messages, there are e-mails, there are witnesses, there are whistleblowers, there are meetings, there are phone calls, there are dinners. And you can't say, hey, there's a little bit of smoke, we're not going to follow the fire. And the inquiry, my understanding is, as you said earlier, gives us expanded subpoena powers. I want the bank records of Joe Biden. All of that should be on the table to prove out the allegations in the SARS reports. We're talking about a significant sum of money. We are talking about bribery. And in the Constitution Article 2 Section 4, that is the basis for impeachment.
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There are witnesses. The 1023 form. There are, you know, there --
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There is evidence. You can't say that there's no evidence there -- when there is evidence. And, quite frankly, it was the --
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It was the fourth estate. It was the media and journalists when Nixon was going down that helped do that investigation, helped bring down the president when they -- when he broke the law.
And, you know, you guys want to deny that there's evidence. It's everywhere.
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And the bank records will prove it out.
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Thank you."
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