State of the Union: Interview with Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC)

Interview

Date: Sept. 3, 2023
Location: unknown
Issues: Women Abortion

"Yes, I can hear you.

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Good afternoon, and thank you.

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You have to say enough is enough.

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I'm pro-life. I have a fantastic pro-life voting record. But I also understand that we cannot be assholes to women.

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I saw the Citadel as a path for me to be able to get my life together. But also, looking back at it now, it was a place for me to prove to myself that I would not quit.

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When that happens, you don't blame the man that does that. You blame yourself. Were my shorts too short? Was my shirt too tight? Why did that happen? Why did that person think it was OK to attack me in that way?

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Yes.

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Sometimes. I mean, I think...

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Well, I think telling my story got me to get through that. But I will tell you, being a victim of rape, that you don't ever get over it.

Sometimes, emotionally, I'm like a 16-year-old girl. I get angry. I wear my heart on my sleeve. And I can be very vocal about things, because I still feel that shame and that anger. You know it's not your fault, but there's still shame about it.

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Victims like me.

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As a Republican woman today in 2023, this is a very lonely

place to be, because I feel like that I'm the only woman on our side of the aisle advocating for things that all women should care about.

No woman wants to go to the doctor and make the decision that she's going to have an abortion. Nobody wants that. And what are we doing to ensure that she doesn't have to make that decision? What are we doing about the foster care system? What are we doing about childcare? We're doing none of those things.

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I think they're walking the plank.

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I think I get labeled a flip-flopper unfairly because of that. I have my own ideology that I believe in. I will take the vote. That doesn't mean I want to take the vote.

I have been very, very effective at trying to push the ball, not always, but doing the best that I can. I'm only one person. And,a lot of times, I'm doing it alone and by myself. I would love to have more folks join us too.

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We won resoundingly. We won by almost 10 points.

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There are two tiers of justice. It's a double standard. Hillary wasn't treated the same way.

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Racketeering, RICO, money laundering. One of the most corrupt presidents. Made a lot of money off of Joe Biden.

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Well, it is absolutely lonely. It's by issue for me, and I want to call it like I see it. And, sometimes, I'm going to be over here, and then, sometimes, I'm going to be over here, and it can feel like ping-pong sometimes.

And I'm trying to be consistent.

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Yes, I would say I don't do anything on purpose.

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My fiance tried to pull me by my waist over this morning in bed, and I was like: "No, baby, we don't got time for that.

We laugh about it inside the office sometimes. Like, we just -- nothing happens on purpose here. It's all an accident.

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It's very challenging. But I could not do it without their father.

And I do have tremendous guilt as a mom for being a working mom. I talk to so many women who share that. And I think, I'm not a helicopter mom. Well, I want my kids to be as independent as possible, but I do too much for them.

I hold their hand a little too much. And I'm in this phase, this season of life where I'm saying, oh, no, you're going on your own.

There's a purpose in my life to do this. And, again, I think it goes back to my early traumatic life experiences, despite the things, that I want to make women and people who've been wronged, I want to make it right. And I'm grateful that, my family, that they recognize that as well.

I couldn't do that without it.

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